Sat. Aug 2nd, 2025

In a riveting conversation between Richard Lorenzo Jr. and a former churchgoer turned atheist, a profound discussion unfolded—one that touches on faith, morality, the afterlife and the undeniable power of a personal encounter with Jesus Christ.

Lorenzo started off the the conversation asking the young woman, who is a devout atheist, where she would go if she died. She explained that she believes we are all part of the universe and the universe is a part of us, thinking she would likely just turn into energy.

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The woman, who was once deeply involved in church, rejects the idea of heaven and hell. However, Lorenzo brings up the fact that many of the people who actually have near-death experiences are those who didn’t believe in God.

“The majority of them, they don’t believe,” Lorenzo says. “They’ll say they were like atheist, and then they had this encounter and they came back and converted to believe in God.”

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Despite her skepticism toward Christianity, Lorenzo prophesies she will one day have a radical experience with Jesus and become a powerful evangelist. The atheist argues that concepts of right and wrong are mere social constructs, but Lorenzo challenges this idea, pointing out how even young children instinctively recognize good and evil—evidence of a divine moral law written on human hearts.

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Ultimately, the young woman shares that she has issues with God’s great authority and power while still allowing us to have free will.

“That to me seems like a massive contradiction,” the atheist says.

“If He created us and controlled us, and we had no free will, that wouldn’t be love,” Lorenzo says.

The problem of suffering also takes center stage. The atheist questions why God allows starvation, mental illness and evil to exist. In response, Lorenzo explains that suffering is a result of sin and humanity’s rebellion against God, not His indifference.

This conversation shows how some in the next generation may be struggling to accept God, and Christians must take up the mantle to lovingly show them the light of Christ by answering their questions as best we can using the Word of God while living truly as Jesus would desire us to do.

Look for Richard Lorenzo’s exciting new book, What’s the Purpose of Life?, coming this September!

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Abby Trivett is content development editor for Charisma Media.

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