Sat. Aug 2nd, 2025

In a sobering conversation with We Need to Talk host Ezekiel Azonwu, Alexander Pagani shared a raw and revelatory perspective: public exposure is not God’s wrath—it’s His mercy.

With increasing numbers of Christian leaders being revealed for hidden sin, Pagani urges believers to reconsider how they perceive these moments of reckoning.

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“What we are seeing is mercy in full manifestation,” Pagani said. “Exposure is a gift from heaven to make sure that we don’t end up in the lake of fire.” He explained that while some may interpret these moments as harsh judgment, the reality is far more redemptive. Citing Paul’s words in the New Testament, he noted, “Hand such a one over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, but that his spirit would be saved.”

Pagani insists that exposure is not to humiliate, but to rescue. “If you’re being publicly exposed, God is letting the world know He loves you immensely,” he said. “If He didn’t love you, He’d let you die in that sin.” Rather than calling down judgment on fallen leaders, Pagani calls for a heart of compassion and caution. “Don’t cheer when someone falls. That’s not justice—it’s mockery,” he added.

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He referenced biblical figures like Esau and Jacob, highlighting how God still used Jacob’s name even after changing it to Israel, because “we have Jacob moments.” In the same way, many believers today wrestle with their old nature despite knowing their new identity in Christ.

Addressing the role of judgment and discernment in the church, Pagani drew from Matthew 7: “Judge not lest you be judged.” He made the point that we still must hold leaders accountable. “You shall know them by their fruit,” he emphasized. “God is encouraging us to judge from the heart of a shepherd—to protect the sheep.”

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Pagani also affirmed that sometimes, exposure must be followed by tangible consequences, including legal action. “I 100% agree with exposing someone publicly,” he said. “Some people need to be in prison… I’ve been there. And for some, it’s the best place they could be.”

Still, he warned against a toxic culture of exposure for exposure’s sake. “You can’t be a wolf exposing a wolf,” he cautioned. “Make sure your hands are clean. It can’t be darkness confronting darkness.”

Finally, Pagani touched on the emotional impact these exposures have on both the church and the individuals involved. “They’re still someone’s father, someone’s pastor,” he said. “There’s always collateral damage when someone falls.”

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Despite the pain, Pagani remains hopeful: “If they get exposed, it’s because God is giving them one more chance to repent. It’s grace. It’s love. And it’s not too late.”

In a time of prevalent scandal and deep division in the church, Pagani’s message is clear: exposure may be shocking, but it’s also saving—because mercy that is rejected, he says, “is judgment invited.”

Abby Trivett is content development editor for Charisma Media.

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